Gods who do nothing
Would gods who never meddle with the world be a relief or a loss? Velleius the Epicurean offers their idleness as freedom from fear, and the book asks whether religion can survive it.
Gaius Velleius opens the debate for Epicurus. The gods exist, he says, because every people holds a notion of them before any teaching; they are shaped like humans, since no form is finer, and they are perfectly happy because they labour at nothing, least of all at running the world. Fear of their anger is therefore groundless. Cotta answers that such gods are owed nothing, and Cicero's preface has already warned that without their care, prayer, piety and perhaps justice lose their ground.
- pleasure
- nature
- perception
- fear
- human nature
Enter a dialogue
- Velleius, your Epicurean senator, says the gods are perfectly happy because they labour at nothing. Why should that free anyone from fearing them?
- The Epicurean gods have human shape because no form is finer. What use, asks Cotta, your doubting priest, is a tongue to a god who never speaks?
- If the gods take no care of us, your preface warns, prayer and piety lose their point. Why do you fear that justice itself might not survive?
- Your Epicurean Velleius mocks a creator god who sat idle through endless ages before making the world. What could have stirred a god to start building?
- Some suspect Epicurus kept the gods in words while abolishing them in fact, for fear of Athens' laws. Can gods who do nothing be honestly worshipped?