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Euthydemus

A comic display of two sophist brothers' verbal trickery, set against Socrates' honest effort to turn a young man toward philosophy.

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Original title
Εὐθύδημος
First published
384 BCE(aged 44)
Original language
Ancient Greek

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Overview

A pair of ageing brothers, Euthydemus and Dionysodorus, have taken up a new trade — eristic, the art of winning arguments by whatever verbal trick is to hand — and Socrates, narrating the scene to his friend Crito, plays it for comedy. The brothers prove that you cannot tell a lie because there is nothing that is not; that Socrates wants his friends dead when he wants them improved; that a man's father is a dog. Each fallacy is paraded as wisdom. Between the displays Socrates does the opposite thing: he gently urges the promising youth Cleinias toward real philosophy and the care of his soul, so Plato sets cheap cleverness and genuine inquiry side by side and lets the reader feel the distance between them. The routines were not idle entertainment. Aristotle would later sort exactly these kinds of fallacy in his Sophistical Refutations, and the Euthydemus is one of the earliest catalogues of the tricks he names. It comes down whole with the rest of the corpus.

Key concepts

What is eristic, the brothers' trade?

The art of winning arguments by any verbal trick to hand, with no care for truth. Euthydemus and Dionysodorus deploy it as a kind of combat sport, parading each fallacy as wisdom. Plato sets eristic against genuine dialectic, inquiry that seeks the truth, so the reader can feel the distance between argument that clarifies and argument that merely conquers.

Who are Euthydemus and Dionysodorus?

A pair of ageing brothers who have taken up eristic as a new profession, putting on displays of argumentative trickery for a crowd. Socrates narrates the whole scene to his friend Crito, playing it for comedy. Between their routines he does the opposite thing, gently steering a promising youth toward real philosophy, the honest counterpart to their cleverness.

What kind of fallacies do the brothers actually pull?

Equivocations paraded as proofs. They argue that no one can lie because there is nothing that is not; that Socrates wants his friends dead when he wants them improved; that a man's father is a dog. Each trades on a shift of meaning or a slippery quantifier, producing an absurd conclusion by an argument that looks, for a moment, valid.

How does the Euthydemus connect to Aristotle?

Aristotle later sorted exactly these kinds of verbal trick in his Sophistical Refutations, cataloguing the fallacies by type. The Euthydemus is one of the earliest inventories of the same material, gathering the tricks as comedy before logic organised them as theory. Reading it is watching the raw specimens Aristotle would go on to classify.

Themes of the book

What this book returns to, gathered into themes and ordered by how much of the text each one occupies.

Cheap Cleverness Against Real Inquiry

Set beside Socrates' honest effort to turn a youth toward philosophy, two brothers' verbal trickery exposes the gulf between winning arguments and seeking truth.

Euthydemus and Dionysodorus peddle eristic — the art of winning by any verbal trick — proving that no one can lie, that a man's father is a dog, each fallacy paraded as wisdom. Between the displays Socrates urges the promising Cleinias toward genuine philosophy and the care of his soul, and Plato lets the reader feel the distance. The routines were not idle: Aristotle later sorted exactly these fallacies in his Sophistical Refutations, making this one of the earliest catalogues of the tricks he names.

  • logic
  • sophistry
  • epistemology
  • dialectic
  • wisdom
  • language
  • rhetoric
  • contradiction
  • fallacy
  • paradox
  • persuasion
  • semantics

Within this work

passages held
59
distinct concepts
92
by passages held, corpus-wide
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What this book thinks together

Every arc around the wheel is one concept in this book. A ribbon joins two the text reaches for together, and its width is how many of its passages hold both. Strongest: epistemology with logic.
Concept co-occurrence, strongest first 8 concepts, joined by 12 pairings. 42 shared passages in all. 29 weaker pairings reach beyond these concepts and are not drawn.
ConceptPaired conceptShared passages
epistemologylogic6
languagelogic6
dialecticsophistry5
contradictionlogic4
logicsophistry4
rhetoricsophistry4
dialecticrhetoric3
contradictionepistemology2
contradictionsophistry2
dialecticlanguage2
epistemologysophistry2
languagesophistry2

Works held

The author's work in order, this book marked in place. Your-language title first, the original beneath it where the two differ; side chips show which full texts are held.

  1. -399 Apology (Ἀπολογία Σωκράτους)

    Alone among Plato's works it is a courtroom monologue rather than a dialogue, and with the Euthyphro, Crito and Phaedo it forms the quartet dramatising Socrates' trial and death — the events that turned Plato toward philosophy.

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  2. -399 Crito (Κρίτων)

    Set in the prison between the Apology's verdict and the Phaedo's execution, it is the shortest of the four last-days dialogues and the one that turns from Socrates' own fate to the citizen's duty toward the state.

    GRCEN
  3. -399 Euthyphro (Εὐθύφρων)

    One of the short definitional dialogues, in which Socrates hunts a single concept — here holiness — and comes away empty-handed; it opens the tetralogy that runs through the trial to the execution.

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  4. -399 Lesser Hippias (Ἱππίας ἐλάττων)

    A brief, aporetic early piece whose deliberately perverse conclusion has kept it a standing puzzle — and whose authenticity a few scholars still question, though Aristotle already treated it as Plato's.

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  5. -395 Ion (Ἴων)

    Among the shortest dialogues, and the first place Plato treats poetry as divine possession rather than craft — a theme he takes up again, far more harshly, in the Republic's quarrel with the poets.

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  6. -390 First Alcibiades (Ἀλκιβιάδης Αʹ)

    Its authenticity is disputed — unquestioned in antiquity, doubted since Schleiermacher — which is now the salient fact about it; the longer of the two Alcibiades dialogues attached to Plato's name.

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  7. -390 Laches (Λάχης)

    An early inquiry into a single virtue, pairing naturally with the Charmides on temperance; the question it leaves open — whether courage is really a form of knowledge — points ahead to the Protagoras.

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  8. -390 Second Alcibiades (Ἀλκιβιάδης Βʹ)

    Generally judged spurious — a post-Platonic imitation carried under his name in the corpus — this short exercise on prayer is useful mainly as a specimen of how the school later wrote in Plato's manner.

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  9. -385 Meno (Μένων)

    A pivot in the corpus, standing between the aporetic early dialogues and the middle-period metaphysics: the theory of recollection and the knowledge/true-belief distinction first surface here, on the road to the Phaedo and Republic.

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  10. -385 Protagoras (Πρωταγόρας)

    Plato's fullest dramatic contest between Socratic questioning and sophistic display, staged among the age's leading intellectuals; its question of teachable virtue passes straight into the Meno and Gorgias.

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  11. -384 Euthydemus (Εὐθύδημος) you are here GRCEN
  12. -380 Charmides (Χαρμίδης)

    The early companion to the Laches: where that dialogue fails to pin down courage, this one fails to pin down temperance — set just after Socrates' return from Potidaea, among relatives of Plato who became tyrants.

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  13. -380 Cratylus (Κρατύλος)

    Plato's only dialogue given wholly to language and the correctness of names; hard to date and unusual in the corpus, it stands at the head of a debate the philosophy of language has never closed.

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  14. -380 Gorgias (Γοργίας)

    The bridge from the early ethical dialogues to the Republic: its confrontation with Callicles over whether injustice pays sets up the question the Republic devotes its whole length to answering.

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  15. -380 Lysis (Λύσις)

    One of the shortest early dialogues, and Plato's only sustained treatment of friendship as such; the questions it cannot answer are the ones Aristotle later organises in the Nicomachean Ethics.

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  16. -380 Menexenus (Μενέξενος)

    Almost entirely a set-piece funeral oration rather than a dialogue; its authenticity is backed by Aristotle's references, and it reads as Plato's deliberately ambiguous parody of Athenian patriotic rhetoric.

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  17. -375 Phaedo (Φαίδων)

    The longest and most doctrinally ambitious of the last-days group, and the point where Socrates' conversations give way to Plato's own metaphysics: the theory of Forms stated outright, at the deathbed.

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  18. -375 Republic (Πολιτεία)

    The centre of the corpus and the fullest statement of the middle-period philosophy — the Forms, the tripartite soul, the ideal city — gathering into one work the ethical and political threads of the Gorgias, Meno and Phaedo.

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  19. -375 Symposium (Συμπόσιον)

    A middle-period masterpiece built as a sequence of set speeches rather than a cross-examination; with the Phaedrus it is Plato's great treatment of erôs, and the source, through Ficino, of the phrase 'Platonic love.'

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  20. -370 Parmenides (Παρμενίδης)

    The turning point where Plato subjects the middle-period Forms to their gravest criticism; its baffling second half became, for the Neoplatonists, the supreme metaphysical text in the whole corpus.

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  21. -370 Phaedrus (Φαῖδρος)

    Pairs with the Symposium as Plato's second great study of love, but reaches further — into rhetoric, dialectic and a famous closing critique of writing; unusually, it is set in the countryside outside Athens.

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  22. -369 Theaetetus (Θεαίτητος)

    Plato's central inquiry into knowledge, and the first of a late trilogy continued in the Sophist and Statesman; famously it reaches no definition at all, ending in deliberate impasse.

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  23. -360 Critias (Κριτίας)

    An unfinished late dialogue, broken off in mid-sentence and intended as the sequel to the Timaeus; its importance is almost entirely as the ancient origin of the Atlantis story.

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  24. -360 Sophist (Σοφιστής)

    The technical heart of the late trilogy, led by the Eleatic Stranger rather than Socrates; its solution to the puzzle of not-being is Plato's most sustained piece of pure logic and ontology.

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  25. -360 Statesman (Πολιτικός)

    The direct sequel to the Sophist, and the corpus's bridge from late metaphysics toward the legislation of the Laws; its claim that expert knowledge outranks written law reconsiders the Republic.

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  26. -360 Timaeus (Τίμαιος)

    Plato's one work of systematic cosmology, and by far his most influential in the Latin Middle Ages — for centuries the only dialogue available in the West, through Calcidius's partial translation.

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  27. -350 Eryxias (Ἐρυξίας)

    Classed among the spurious works and doubted since antiquity, this short dialogue on wealth is carried in the corpus under Plato's name but is very unlikely to be his.

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  28. -350 Laws (Νόμοι)

    Plato's longest and last dialogue, left unfinished at his death and the only one without Socrates; a practical, law-by-law counterpart to the ideal city of the Republic.

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  29. Philebus (Φίληβος)

    A late and technically demanding dialogue on whether pleasure or wisdom makes a life good; its exact place in the late group is unusually uncertain, and it is Plato's fullest ethics of pleasure.

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