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Lesser Hippias

The dialogue that argues, unnervingly, that the man who does wrong on purpose is better than the one who does it by accident.

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Original title
Ἱππίας ἐλάττων
First published
399 BCE(aged 29)
Original language
Ancient Greek

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Overview

Hippias of Elis was a sophist who boasted he could make anything and answer anything, and here Socrates takes him on over Homer. Which of Homer's men is finer, the argument begins — the truthful Achilles or the wily Odysseus? Socrates works the question toward a conclusion nobody in the room wants: since any real skill includes the power to go wrong deliberately, the person who does wrong on purpose must be better than the one who blunders into it against his will. Neither speaker believes it, and the dialogue simply stops there, the paradox left standing. The reasoning is easy to feel as a trick, and its conclusion sits flatly against the view developed elsewhere in Plato that no one does wrong knowingly — one reason some readers have doubted he wrote it, a few crediting the Socratic Antisthenes instead. What holds it inside the corpus is Aristotle: in the Metaphysics he cites the argument directly, which means the piece was already circulating as Plato's within a generation of his death. It is among the shortest and earliest works on this shelf, and it survives whole with the rest through the medieval manuscripts.

Key concepts

Who is Hippias, and what did he boast he could do?

A celebrated sophist from Elis who claimed he could make anything with his hands and answer any question put to him, a walking encyclopedia and performer. Socrates takes on this self-advertised master and steers him, expert though he is, into endorsing a conclusion he cannot accept. The dialogue is partly a puncturing of the polymath's confidence.

How does the Achilles and Odysseus comparison start the argument?

It opens as a dispute over Homer: which man is finer, the straightforward Achilles or the cunning Odysseus? Hippias praises truthful Achilles and disparages the wily Odysseus. Socrates uses the contrast as a wedge, pressing whether the man who deceives on purpose is really worse than one who does so unawares, and drives the talk toward its unwelcome paradox.

What is the capacity argument that drives the paradox?

The claim that any real skill includes the power to produce its opposite deliberately. A good runner can run slowly on purpose; a skilled speaker can lie well. So expertise carries the ability to go wrong by choice, which, pressed, makes the deliberate wrongdoer look more capable than the accidental one. The reasoning feels like a trap, and nobody in the room believes it.

Why do some scholars doubt Plato wrote the Lesser Hippias?

Because its conclusion clashes with a view central elsewhere in Plato, that no one does wrong knowingly. A few have credited the Socratic Antisthenes instead. What keeps it inside the corpus is Aristotle, who cites the argument directly in the Metaphysics, showing the piece already circulated as Plato's within a generation of his death.

Themes of the book

What this book returns to, gathered into themes and ordered by how much of the text each one occupies.

The Deliberate Wrongdoer

If real skill includes the power to fail on purpose, is the man who does wrong knowingly better than the one who blunders into it?

Starting from whether Homer's truthful Achilles or wily Odysseus is the finer man, Socrates drives toward a conclusion no one will accept: since mastery of any craft carries the power to err deliberately, whoever does wrong on purpose must be superior to whoever does it unwillingly. The paradox is left standing, unbelieved and unrefuted, and it cuts against the view stated elsewhere that no one does wrong knowingly — a tension sharp enough that a few readers have doubted Plato wrote it, though Aristotle cites the argument as his.

  • power
  • virtue
  • expertise
  • knowledge
  • excellence
  • skill
  • deception
  • error
  • control
  • dialectic
  • truth and falsehood
  • voluntary action
  • moral psychology
  • ability
  • intention

Within this work

passages held
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distinct concepts
50
by passages held, corpus-wide
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What this book thinks together

Every arc around the wheel is one concept in this book. A ribbon joins two the text reaches for together, and its width is how many of its passages hold both. Strongest: agency with knowledge.
Concept co-occurrence, strongest first 8 concepts, joined by 7 pairings. 14 shared passages in all. 6 weaker pairings reach beyond these concepts and are not drawn.
ConceptPaired conceptShared passages
agencyknowledge2
agencymastery2
agencypower2
agencyskill2
charactervirtue2
knowledgepower2
masteryskill2

Works held

The author's work in order, this book marked in place. Your-language title first, the original beneath it where the two differ; side chips show which full texts are held.

  1. -399 Apology (Ἀπολογία Σωκράτους)

    Alone among Plato's works it is a courtroom monologue rather than a dialogue, and with the Euthyphro, Crito and Phaedo it forms the quartet dramatising Socrates' trial and death — the events that turned Plato toward philosophy.

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  2. -399 Crito (Κρίτων)

    Set in the prison between the Apology's verdict and the Phaedo's execution, it is the shortest of the four last-days dialogues and the one that turns from Socrates' own fate to the citizen's duty toward the state.

    GRCEN
  3. -399 Euthyphro (Εὐθύφρων)

    One of the short definitional dialogues, in which Socrates hunts a single concept — here holiness — and comes away empty-handed; it opens the tetralogy that runs through the trial to the execution.

    GRCEN
  4. -399 Lesser Hippias (Ἱππίας ἐλάττων) you are here GRCEN
  5. -395 Ion (Ἴων)

    Among the shortest dialogues, and the first place Plato treats poetry as divine possession rather than craft — a theme he takes up again, far more harshly, in the Republic's quarrel with the poets.

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  6. -390 First Alcibiades (Ἀλκιβιάδης Αʹ)

    Its authenticity is disputed — unquestioned in antiquity, doubted since Schleiermacher — which is now the salient fact about it; the longer of the two Alcibiades dialogues attached to Plato's name.

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  7. -390 Laches (Λάχης)

    An early inquiry into a single virtue, pairing naturally with the Charmides on temperance; the question it leaves open — whether courage is really a form of knowledge — points ahead to the Protagoras.

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  8. -390 Second Alcibiades (Ἀλκιβιάδης Βʹ)

    Generally judged spurious — a post-Platonic imitation carried under his name in the corpus — this short exercise on prayer is useful mainly as a specimen of how the school later wrote in Plato's manner.

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  9. -385 Meno (Μένων)

    A pivot in the corpus, standing between the aporetic early dialogues and the middle-period metaphysics: the theory of recollection and the knowledge/true-belief distinction first surface here, on the road to the Phaedo and Republic.

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  10. -385 Protagoras (Πρωταγόρας)

    Plato's fullest dramatic contest between Socratic questioning and sophistic display, staged among the age's leading intellectuals; its question of teachable virtue passes straight into the Meno and Gorgias.

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  11. -384 Euthydemus (Εὐθύδημος)

    A comic dialogue framed as Socrates' report to Crito, and the corpus's fullest exhibition of sophistical fallacy — much the same material Aristotle would later systematise in the Sophistical Refutations.

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  12. -380 Charmides (Χαρμίδης)

    The early companion to the Laches: where that dialogue fails to pin down courage, this one fails to pin down temperance — set just after Socrates' return from Potidaea, among relatives of Plato who became tyrants.

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  13. -380 Cratylus (Κρατύλος)

    Plato's only dialogue given wholly to language and the correctness of names; hard to date and unusual in the corpus, it stands at the head of a debate the philosophy of language has never closed.

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  14. -380 Gorgias (Γοργίας)

    The bridge from the early ethical dialogues to the Republic: its confrontation with Callicles over whether injustice pays sets up the question the Republic devotes its whole length to answering.

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  15. -380 Lysis (Λύσις)

    One of the shortest early dialogues, and Plato's only sustained treatment of friendship as such; the questions it cannot answer are the ones Aristotle later organises in the Nicomachean Ethics.

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  16. -380 Menexenus (Μενέξενος)

    Almost entirely a set-piece funeral oration rather than a dialogue; its authenticity is backed by Aristotle's references, and it reads as Plato's deliberately ambiguous parody of Athenian patriotic rhetoric.

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  17. -375 Phaedo (Φαίδων)

    The longest and most doctrinally ambitious of the last-days group, and the point where Socrates' conversations give way to Plato's own metaphysics: the theory of Forms stated outright, at the deathbed.

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  18. -375 Republic (Πολιτεία)

    The centre of the corpus and the fullest statement of the middle-period philosophy — the Forms, the tripartite soul, the ideal city — gathering into one work the ethical and political threads of the Gorgias, Meno and Phaedo.

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  19. -375 Symposium (Συμπόσιον)

    A middle-period masterpiece built as a sequence of set speeches rather than a cross-examination; with the Phaedrus it is Plato's great treatment of erôs, and the source, through Ficino, of the phrase 'Platonic love.'

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  20. -370 Parmenides (Παρμενίδης)

    The turning point where Plato subjects the middle-period Forms to their gravest criticism; its baffling second half became, for the Neoplatonists, the supreme metaphysical text in the whole corpus.

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  21. -370 Phaedrus (Φαῖδρος)

    Pairs with the Symposium as Plato's second great study of love, but reaches further — into rhetoric, dialectic and a famous closing critique of writing; unusually, it is set in the countryside outside Athens.

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  22. -369 Theaetetus (Θεαίτητος)

    Plato's central inquiry into knowledge, and the first of a late trilogy continued in the Sophist and Statesman; famously it reaches no definition at all, ending in deliberate impasse.

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  23. -360 Critias (Κριτίας)

    An unfinished late dialogue, broken off in mid-sentence and intended as the sequel to the Timaeus; its importance is almost entirely as the ancient origin of the Atlantis story.

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  24. -360 Sophist (Σοφιστής)

    The technical heart of the late trilogy, led by the Eleatic Stranger rather than Socrates; its solution to the puzzle of not-being is Plato's most sustained piece of pure logic and ontology.

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  25. -360 Statesman (Πολιτικός)

    The direct sequel to the Sophist, and the corpus's bridge from late metaphysics toward the legislation of the Laws; its claim that expert knowledge outranks written law reconsiders the Republic.

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  26. -360 Timaeus (Τίμαιος)

    Plato's one work of systematic cosmology, and by far his most influential in the Latin Middle Ages — for centuries the only dialogue available in the West, through Calcidius's partial translation.

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  27. -350 Eryxias (Ἐρυξίας)

    Classed among the spurious works and doubted since antiquity, this short dialogue on wealth is carried in the corpus under Plato's name but is very unlikely to be his.

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  28. -350 Laws (Νόμοι)

    Plato's longest and last dialogue, left unfinished at his death and the only one without Socrates; a practical, law-by-law counterpart to the ideal city of the Republic.

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  29. Philebus (Φίληβος)

    A late and technically demanding dialogue on whether pleasure or wisdom makes a life good; its exact place in the late group is unusually uncertain, and it is Plato's fullest ethics of pleasure.

    GRCELEN
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