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Lysis

A short, inconclusive search for what makes two people friends — and one of philosophy's first sustained attempts to say what friendship actually is.

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Original title
Λύσις
First published
380 BCE(aged 48)
Original language
Ancient Greek

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Overview

A lovesick young man named Hippothales has been mooning after the boy Lysis and getting nowhere, so Socrates offers to show him how to talk to the one he wants — and turns the demonstration into a question. What actually makes two people friends? He tries the obvious answers in turn: that like is drawn to like, that opposite needs opposite, that only what is itself neither good nor bad can love the good. Each gives way under him, and the little dialogue ends with Socrates and the boys still calling one another friends without being able to explain why. It is among Plato's briefest and least conclusive works, but it put the philosophy of friendship permanently on the table: Aristotle's long analysis of philia in the Nicomachean Ethics takes up the very puzzles the Lysis leaves open. An early piece, it survives whole through the Byzantine manuscripts.

Key concepts

What does philia, the dialogue's subject, mean?

Philia is the Greek word for friendship and affection broadly, the bond between friends, kin, and lovers alike, wider than the English 'friendship'. The Lysis asks what actually creates it. Because philia stretches across so many relationships, pinning down a single cause proves hard, and the same breadth is why Aristotle later needed a long analysis of the term.

Who are Lysis and Hippothales, and how does it start?

Hippothales is a lovesick youth who has been mooning after the boy Lysis and getting nowhere. Socrates offers to show him how to talk to the one he wants, and turns the demonstration into an inquiry into what makes people friends at all. So a lesson in courtship becomes the occasion for philosophy's first sustained question about friendship.

What is the 'first friend' argument Socrates raises?

The idea that if we love one thing for the sake of another, the chain must end somewhere in a first thing loved for its own sake, or nothing is truly loved at all. It is a regress argument about the object of affection, pushing past the obvious answers toward whatever finally grounds them. Like everything here, it is left unresolved.

How does the Lysis connect to Aristotle?

The dialogue is brief and inconclusive, but it put friendship permanently on philosophy's agenda. Aristotle's long treatment of philia in the Nicomachean Ethics takes up the very puzzles the Lysis leaves open, whether we love the like or the useful, the good or the person. Reading the Lysis is meeting those questions in their first, unsettled form.

Themes of the book

What this book returns to, gathered into themes and ordered by how much of the text each one occupies.

What Makes Two People Friends

Begun as a lesson in courtship and turned into an inquiry, it asks what actually binds two friends — and finds every answer gives way.

Asked to help the lovesick Hippothales win the boy Lysis, Socrates instead demonstrates the puzzle: what makes a friend? He tries like drawn to like, opposite needing opposite, and the good loved by what is neither good nor bad — each collapses under him. The little dialogue ends with Socrates and the boys still calling one another friends without being able to say why. Brief and inconclusive, it nonetheless put friendship permanently on the table; Aristotle's long analysis of philia takes up the very puzzles it leaves open.

  • friendship
  • desire
  • love
  • value
  • affinity
  • good and evil
  • rhetoric
  • authority
  • dialectic
  • education
  • knowledge

Within this work

passages held
34
distinct concepts
71
by passages held, corpus-wide
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What this book thinks together

Every arc around the wheel is one concept in this book. A ribbon joins two the text reaches for together, and its width is how many of its passages hold both. Strongest: friendship with logic.
Concept co-occurrence, strongest first 8 concepts, joined by 6 pairings. 17 shared passages in all. 4 weaker pairings reach beyond these concepts and are not drawn.
ConceptPaired conceptShared passages
friendshiplogic5
desirefriendship4
affinityfriendship2
axiologyfriendship2
causalityfriendship2
competenceknowledge2

Works held

The author's work in order, this book marked in place. Your-language title first, the original beneath it where the two differ; side chips show which full texts are held.

  1. -399 Apology (Ἀπολογία Σωκράτους)

    Alone among Plato's works it is a courtroom monologue rather than a dialogue, and with the Euthyphro, Crito and Phaedo it forms the quartet dramatising Socrates' trial and death — the events that turned Plato toward philosophy.

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  2. -399 Crito (Κρίτων)

    Set in the prison between the Apology's verdict and the Phaedo's execution, it is the shortest of the four last-days dialogues and the one that turns from Socrates' own fate to the citizen's duty toward the state.

    GRCEN
  3. -399 Euthyphro (Εὐθύφρων)

    One of the short definitional dialogues, in which Socrates hunts a single concept — here holiness — and comes away empty-handed; it opens the tetralogy that runs through the trial to the execution.

    GRCEN
  4. -399 Lesser Hippias (Ἱππίας ἐλάττων)

    A brief, aporetic early piece whose deliberately perverse conclusion has kept it a standing puzzle — and whose authenticity a few scholars still question, though Aristotle already treated it as Plato's.

    GRCEN
  5. -395 Ion (Ἴων)

    Among the shortest dialogues, and the first place Plato treats poetry as divine possession rather than craft — a theme he takes up again, far more harshly, in the Republic's quarrel with the poets.

    GRCEN
  6. -390 First Alcibiades (Ἀλκιβιάδης Αʹ)

    Its authenticity is disputed — unquestioned in antiquity, doubted since Schleiermacher — which is now the salient fact about it; the longer of the two Alcibiades dialogues attached to Plato's name.

    GRCEN
  7. -390 Laches (Λάχης)

    An early inquiry into a single virtue, pairing naturally with the Charmides on temperance; the question it leaves open — whether courage is really a form of knowledge — points ahead to the Protagoras.

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  8. -390 Second Alcibiades (Ἀλκιβιάδης Βʹ)

    Generally judged spurious — a post-Platonic imitation carried under his name in the corpus — this short exercise on prayer is useful mainly as a specimen of how the school later wrote in Plato's manner.

    GRCEN
  9. -385 Meno (Μένων)

    A pivot in the corpus, standing between the aporetic early dialogues and the middle-period metaphysics: the theory of recollection and the knowledge/true-belief distinction first surface here, on the road to the Phaedo and Republic.

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  10. -385 Protagoras (Πρωταγόρας)

    Plato's fullest dramatic contest between Socratic questioning and sophistic display, staged among the age's leading intellectuals; its question of teachable virtue passes straight into the Meno and Gorgias.

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  11. -384 Euthydemus (Εὐθύδημος)

    A comic dialogue framed as Socrates' report to Crito, and the corpus's fullest exhibition of sophistical fallacy — much the same material Aristotle would later systematise in the Sophistical Refutations.

    GRCEN
  12. -380 Charmides (Χαρμίδης)

    The early companion to the Laches: where that dialogue fails to pin down courage, this one fails to pin down temperance — set just after Socrates' return from Potidaea, among relatives of Plato who became tyrants.

    GRCEN
  13. -380 Cratylus (Κρατύλος)

    Plato's only dialogue given wholly to language and the correctness of names; hard to date and unusual in the corpus, it stands at the head of a debate the philosophy of language has never closed.

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  14. -380 Gorgias (Γοργίας)

    The bridge from the early ethical dialogues to the Republic: its confrontation with Callicles over whether injustice pays sets up the question the Republic devotes its whole length to answering.

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  15. -380 Lysis (Λύσις) you are here GRCEN
  16. -380 Menexenus (Μενέξενος)

    Almost entirely a set-piece funeral oration rather than a dialogue; its authenticity is backed by Aristotle's references, and it reads as Plato's deliberately ambiguous parody of Athenian patriotic rhetoric.

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  17. -375 Phaedo (Φαίδων)

    The longest and most doctrinally ambitious of the last-days group, and the point where Socrates' conversations give way to Plato's own metaphysics: the theory of Forms stated outright, at the deathbed.

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  18. -375 Republic (Πολιτεία)

    The centre of the corpus and the fullest statement of the middle-period philosophy — the Forms, the tripartite soul, the ideal city — gathering into one work the ethical and political threads of the Gorgias, Meno and Phaedo.

    GRCEN
  19. -375 Symposium (Συμπόσιον)

    A middle-period masterpiece built as a sequence of set speeches rather than a cross-examination; with the Phaedrus it is Plato's great treatment of erôs, and the source, through Ficino, of the phrase 'Platonic love.'

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  20. -370 Parmenides (Παρμενίδης)

    The turning point where Plato subjects the middle-period Forms to their gravest criticism; its baffling second half became, for the Neoplatonists, the supreme metaphysical text in the whole corpus.

    GRCEN
  21. -370 Phaedrus (Φαῖδρος)

    Pairs with the Symposium as Plato's second great study of love, but reaches further — into rhetoric, dialectic and a famous closing critique of writing; unusually, it is set in the countryside outside Athens.

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  22. -369 Theaetetus (Θεαίτητος)

    Plato's central inquiry into knowledge, and the first of a late trilogy continued in the Sophist and Statesman; famously it reaches no definition at all, ending in deliberate impasse.

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  23. -360 Critias (Κριτίας)

    An unfinished late dialogue, broken off in mid-sentence and intended as the sequel to the Timaeus; its importance is almost entirely as the ancient origin of the Atlantis story.

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  24. -360 Sophist (Σοφιστής)

    The technical heart of the late trilogy, led by the Eleatic Stranger rather than Socrates; its solution to the puzzle of not-being is Plato's most sustained piece of pure logic and ontology.

    GRCEN
  25. -360 Statesman (Πολιτικός)

    The direct sequel to the Sophist, and the corpus's bridge from late metaphysics toward the legislation of the Laws; its claim that expert knowledge outranks written law reconsiders the Republic.

    GRCEN
  26. -360 Timaeus (Τίμαιος)

    Plato's one work of systematic cosmology, and by far his most influential in the Latin Middle Ages — for centuries the only dialogue available in the West, through Calcidius's partial translation.

    GRCEN
  27. -350 Eryxias (Ἐρυξίας)

    Classed among the spurious works and doubted since antiquity, this short dialogue on wealth is carried in the corpus under Plato's name but is very unlikely to be his.

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  28. -350 Laws (Νόμοι)

    Plato's longest and last dialogue, left unfinished at his death and the only one without Socrates; a practical, law-by-law counterpart to the ideal city of the Republic.

    GRCEN
  29. Philebus (Φίληβος)

    A late and technically demanding dialogue on whether pleasure or wisdom makes a life good; its exact place in the late group is unusually uncertain, and it is Plato's fullest ethics of pleasure.

    GRCELEN
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